There has been more bond talk this weekend. The following rather cryptic (in my opinion) Reuters wire snippet has a lot of people worrying:
[11:41 US GOVTS: Real Money Using Coupon Passes To Exit; FM Blast]
Boston, May 21. There apparently is a new wrinkle to the intermediation trade between buying from Treasury to sell to the Fed with real money, including central banks, now in on the act. Indeed, several Street sources relay central banks were aggressive offers into this morning’s coupon pass, with one letting go of a large block of old 5-years. Other offers too are coming in from embedded Asian real money longs — in the higher coupons — also looking to sell size without unduly upsetting the market, and especially considering the illiquidity in off- the-run bids from the Street.
Which pretty much says that central banks (European and Asian) are using the US Treasury’s bond auctions to dump existing holdings. Meaning that they are getting creative at dumping long term treasuries, without unduly freaking the market.
So now what Ben?
If Foreign Central Banks are selling into Ben’s bid then the game is literally weeks or even days away from being over.
I have written for over a year about the potential for a bond-market implosion and subsequent economic collapse.
and i can see why he might think that… if the real money is looking for the exits, the Fed will be left holding all the long term (10 to 30 year?) debt, with the rest of the world closing out at short-end.
However, i don’t think this game is going to play out in the suddenly apocalyptic fashion that people like Denninger (and many like him) fear. The holders of these bonds (mostly China, Japan, and other asian central banks) know that if they crash the dollar, debt they hold is going to be worthless. My guess is that they are going to push this as far as they can without actually letting it break. Over time they’ll push the yield higher and higher, hoping that they can bleed America dry without actually sending it into cardiac arrest.
If you’ve been watching the yield on the ten and thirty year you’ll see that they are still heading up. And that has to be halted or it’ll set off a next wave of defaults in the housing market… certainly agree with the question, “So now what Ben?”
As an aside, there are a bunch of stories out there about the rating agencies (S&P, Moodys, Fitch, etc) downgrading the national debts of the US, UK, and Japan. This looks like a side- show to me – these are the same clowns who stuck AAA ratings on MBSs, and obviously don’t understand that Japan doesn’t give a flying about it’s debt rating because it’s not borrowing externally… ignore it, and keep an eye on that bond yield!
[As always, Cynicus Economicus is worth a read.]
1. Bond market Week of Reckoning, Lighten up, Bond Market To Bernanke and Obama: F&$k You
2. UK credit rating under threat as debt hits £8.5bn, Why US Debt Rating Poses Such a Big Worry to Investors, Treasurys fall further ahead of auctions